This is the family of John Kelsall (1844 – 1927), the author of Notes on Members of the Family of Kelsall by John Kelsall, presented to the Society of Genealogists, London, Sept. 1916. John Kelsall’s handwritten manuscript is available on FamilySearch and Google Books, although parts are difficult to read. A transcription may be viewed here.
This history is drawn from John Kelsall’s Notes with additions from a family tree provided by Geoff Macwhirter, and on-line sources. It is noted that some trees on Ancestry incorrectly include children for John Kelsall (1844).
As explained below, John Kelsall had no children. As far as I know the only potential surviving male Kelsall line would be descended from John’s brother Thomas Strettel Kelsall 1845 – 1899 who married Florrie Yandell about 1885 in Apia, Western Samoa. From information provided by Geoff Macwhirter, Thomas and Florrie had a son, Thomas Steve Kelsall born 15 Mar 1886 in Samoa. He married Malia Lafo Aipopo in 1920 and they have descendants in Samoa. Thomas Steve died 30 Mar 1939.
John Kelsall 1769-1828
his line traces to John Kelsall who died 29 July and was buried 30 July 1828, Manchester, age 59; (Source England Select Deaths & Burials (Ancestry), indicating that he was born in 1768/1769. I have not found a birth or christening record, but John Kelsall’s Notes ask if the parents were Samuel Kelsall and Mary. The evidence for these parents appears to be three-part:
- An inscription at St. John’s Church Deansgate Manchester adjoining the family vault: Mary Kelsall widow age 66, buried 8 Aug 1801.
- Another inscription for Phoebe Kelsall died 1790 age 17. From England Births & Baptisms (on FMP) Phebe Kelsall daughter of Samuel and Mary was baptised 12 July 1773 Manchester.
- John Kelsall, son of Samuel Kelsall, bailiff of Salford was admitted to Manchester Grammar School in 1779.
St. John’s Church Deansgate Manchester was an Anglican parish church in Manchester, established in 1769 and demolished in 1931. I have found only one burial entry dating to before that of Mary: Thomas, 17 Jan 1794, age 61, dresser (?). I did not find a record for Samuel Kelsall at St. John’s.
From the inscription at St. John’s, Mary was born in about 1735. I have not found any records for a Samuel with about this birth year or a marriage of Samuel and Mary. Thus, at present the origin of this line before Samuel Kelsall is unknown. I have not found any candidate Samuel in the well-developed trees for Bradshaw, Etchells and Audley – and there is no candidate in BMDs for Ashton on Mersey. Based on geography it is likely that Samuel came from an east Cheshire line.
John was a linen merchant doing business in Falkner Street Manchester and living at Ardwick Green. He was for some time in partnership with Thomas Quincey, father of Thomas de Quincey, author of Confessions of an English Opium Eater.
John married Ellen/Helen Seddon, daughter of Thomas Seddon of Ringley, Lancashire, 3 Nov 1794 at St. Andrew, Mottram in Longendale. They had ten children identified in a family bible:
- Mary Lucy, 1795, died 1820 age 20 (sic from inscription at St. John’s)
- John, 1796, died 1823
- Thomas Seddon, 1797, died 1804
- Elizabeth Helen,1799, died 1874 – see below
- Ann, 1800, died 1800 age 9 months
- William Strettel, 1802, died 1803 age 18 months
- Robert, 1803, died? (John Kelsall Notes indicate he died in Melbourne Australia)
- Thomas Strettel, c. 1804
- Thomas Seddon, 1805, died 1868 – see below
- William Strettel, 1808, died 1854 in Birmingham
John K his wife and many of his children were buried in a vault at the foot of the tower of St. John’s Church Deansgate Manchester. I have not found a record for Ellen’s burial. From the family bible, Helen Kelsall died 1818 age 53, indicating she was born in about 1763, but she was 21 when she married, indicating 1773. From a tree on Ancestry Ellen Seddon was christened 30 May 1773, daughter of Thomas Seddon and Mary Strettel. I have not found this record but the name Strettel clearly matches the middle names of some of the children.
Of this large family the only two who left descendants were
Elizabeth Helen Kelsall 1800 – 1874
Thomas Seddon Kelsall 1805 – 1868
Elizabeth Helen Kelsall 1799 – 1874
Elizabeth Helen was christened 28 Feb 1799 in Manchester and died 1874 in London. She married a widower, Samuel Fletcher 3 March 1836 at Walton on the Hill St. Mary, Liverpool. In 1851 they were resident at Broomfield, Halliwell Lane, Cheetham Hill Manchester with children Jane 33, Harriet 31 and John Samuel 9 and several servants and visitors. Samuel was listed as a merchant. They were at the same address in 1861 John Samuel and Mary H 23. By 1871 they had moved to Treherne House Hampstead London; Helen was widowed and John Samuel was head of household; 8 servants are listed in the census. Elizabeth Helen Fletcher, widow of Treherne House Hampstead died 12 June 1874 and was buried at St. Luke’s, Cheetham Hill Manchester with her husband who had died in 1863.
- Mary Helen Fletcher (1838 – 1911) married Richard Copley Christie,13 June 1861 at St. Luke’s, Cheetham Hill Manchester. Christie (1830 – 1901) became Chancellor of the Diocese of Manchester. Donor of the Christie Library, University of Manchester. He died in 1901 leaving ₤157,000 to his wife and Hector Christie. Mary Helen Christie died 1 February 1911 at Windlesham, Surrey leaving over ₤96,000.
- John Samuel Fletcher (1852 -.1924). From Wikipedia, he was the second son of Samuel Fletcher, merchant of Manchester, and his wife Elizabeth Helen Kelsall, daughter of John Kelsall. Fletcher was educated at Harrow School and at Christ Church, Oxford, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in 1864 and a Master of Arts in 1869, having been called to the Bar by Lincoln’s Inn the year before. Fletcher was appointed a member of the Hampstead Board of Guardians in 1876 and a chairman four years later, retiring from his post in 1898. He joined the London County Council in 1889, became a deputy chairman in 1900 and left the council after another four years. Fletcher entered the House of Commons in 1905, sitting as a Member of Parliament (MP) for Hampstead until 1918. On 17 May 1919, he was created a baronet, of Ashe Ingen Court, in the Parish of Bridstow, in the County of Hereford. Fletcher served as a Justice of the Peace for Middlesex and London. Fletcher married Sara Clark, second daughter of Jonathan Clark in 1895. They had no children and with his death in 1924 the baronetcy became extinct.
Thomas Seddon Kelsall 1805 – 1868
Thomas Seddon Kelsall was christened 12 March 1805 in Manchester. He was educated as a doctor and was on the staff of the Manchester Infirmary. He gave this up to join his brother William Strettel Kelsall in business in Calcutta. The firm was Kelsalls, Hoare and Co. with partners Thomas Seddon Kelsall. William Strettel Kelsall. Edmund Charles Buxton, and Richard Hoare. From a notice in the London Gazette the business was dissolved 12 April 1849.
Thomas married Harriet Elizabeth Richardson daughter of George Richardson BCS., 19 January 1842 at Chittagong, Bengal. From the probate for his will, Thomas Seddon Kelsall, formerly of 14 Porchester Terrace but late of 41 Aldridge Rd Villas, Paddington died 21 September 1868, widow Harriette Elizabeth Kelsall. Harriette Elizabeth Kelsall of 80 Talbot Road, Westbourne Park widow died 10 May 1896. Both were buried at All Souls, Kensal Green, London.
From the birth place of their children we can determine that the family moved to India between early 1845 and early 1847 and returned to Britain between mid-1853 and mid-1855. Before the move, John born in Wilmslow in 1844 and Thomas in Acton, London in 1845. Elizabeth (1847) and a second Elizabeth (1848), Isabella (1852) and Mary Lucy (1853) were born at Calcutta. Catherine (1855), Frances Penelope (1857) and Charles James Seddon (1863) were born in Paddington. By 1861 the family was living at 14 Porchester Terrace, Paddington.
- John 1844 – 1827, see below
- Thomas Strettel Kelsall 1845 – 1899 was born 12 May 1845 and christened 22 Jul 1845 in Turnham Green, London. The family address was Fairlawn House, Acton Green. Thomas married Florrie Yandell about 1885 in Apia Western Samoa. Thomas Strettel Kelsall died 2 Mar 1899 in Apia, Upolo, Samoa. From information provided by Geoff Macwhirter Thomas and Florrie had a son, Thomas Steve Kelsall born 15 Mar 1886 in Samoa. He married Malia Lafo Aipopo in 1920 and they have descendants in Samoa. Thomas Steve died 30 Mar 1939.
- Elizabeth Harriett 1847 – 1847, born 15 July 1847, Calcutta died 26 July 1847
- Elizabeth Harriett 1848 – 1896, born 2 July 1848 Calcutta, married Lestock Charles Harcourt Macwhirter 29 November 1869 in Calcutta. Had sons Lestock Charles Clarkson Macwhirter born India 1871 (died 1939 New South Wales, Australia) and Colin Kelsall Macwhirter born 1872 Victoria, Australia after father had retired. Elizabeth Harriett died at Sydney New South Wales in 1896.
- Isabella Helen 1851 – 1920, born 6 November 1851 Calcutta, died a spinster 1920 Notting Hill with probate to Mary Lucy Kelsall and Charles James Seddon Kelsall.
- Mary Lucy Calcutta 1853 – 1924, born 9 March 1853 died a spinster 1924 Hove, Sussex with probate to Charles James Seddon Kelsall.
- Catharine Agnes 1855 – 1943, christened 19 July 1855 Paddington married Charles William Simson 1884 in India. Had children Helen Agnes, John Charles Arthur, Hugh Strettel. Resident in Bromley Kent in 1911. Died 1943 in Hampshire.
- Francis Penelope 1857 – 1928, born July quarter 1857 Paddington, married Henry Faure Caldwell in Victoria, Australia 1891. Believed to have died 1928 in Stratford upon Avon. No known issue.
- Charles James Seddon 1863 – 1930, christened 14 September 1863, Paddington. Educated at King’s College Hospital, served as house surgeon at King’s, entered Navy 1889 retired after a few years’ service. Resident with Isabella and Lucy Mary in 1911, age 47, Surgeon RN retired, Paddington. Died Hove Sussex 12 June 1930. No Known marriage or children.
Family portrait, 1860 Taken in 1860 by Williams, Regent Street The contemporary label identifies the sitters as brothers and sisters John, Thomas Strettel, Elizabeth Harriette, Helen Isabella and Mary Lucy Kelsall
hand tinted, arched top, paper passe-partout, offered for sale by Dominic Winter Auctioneers, 2017
John Kelsall (1844 – 1927)
This is John Kelsall author of the Notes presented to the Society of Genealogists.
John Kelsall was born at Fulshaw Hall, Wilmslow, Cheshire in 1844, the son of Thomas Seddon Kelsall and Harriette Elizabeth Richardson. He was educated at Cole School and served in the Madras Civil Service in India 1863 to 1889. He married Ann Mary (or Annie Marie) Cole in India in 1868. On retiring they settled in East Sheen, Mortlake, Surrey where John was a Justice of the Peace in 1902. In 1911 John Kelsall, age 67, retired Indian Service, born Wilmslow, Cheshire was living at The Cottage, Fife Road, East Sheen, Mortlake, Surrey, with wife Annie Marie, born Mysore, India, age 65, married 43 years, no children born. John died 6 June 1927 age 83, at East Sheen. Annie Mary died 31 July 1937.